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Surgical History - Wrap-up


  • Date:   Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:49:05 -0400
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  • From:   Daniel Sokolow   < DSokolow AT nshs.edu >
  • Subject:   Surgical History - Wrap-up
  • Message-ID:   BDED556178C61F41A3C1CC33670533DA1014A4@nt2kwb972xch07.lij.edu

WOW. 
Two dozen replies so far. You folks seem to know everything. 

Unfortunately, there seems to be little consensus. Some have said masks were 
in regular use by 1910, some said as late as WWII surgeons were operating without 
masks (Michael Rhode at the National Museum of Health & Medicine actually linked 
to a shot of army surgeons working without shirts, but I imagine that's a different 
discussion.) Numerous responses also argued for or against this being a staged shot, 
and others questioned the date given the stiff collars.

What I guess this means is that I can't say a whole lot definitively about the 
photo, but I can outline the following: 

1) Southside Hospital, the facility in question, opened in 1911 & moved from 
	a house to a "hospital" building in 1923 
2) Surgeons could reasonably have performed surgery without masks during 
	that time frame, 
	and might have been wearing street clothes underneath their gowns
3) High(ish) speed film was available at the time, and the shot did not
	 _need_ to be staged 
4) A low wall without partition to separate spectators was perfectly normal 
	at the time 
5) Detachable collars were still in common use until the 1930s 

From this, I think I can reasonably deduce that the shot was probably taken in the 
hospital's first "real" building, in their first "real" operating room. That wasn't 
around until 1923, so the date is probably about right. There's no real way to tell 
if the shot was during a real operation or staged, but I suppose it's not worth 
worrying about.

My thanks to all & sundry, and it was an interesting topic to research. 

DS 
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